Noni wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:24 am
To everyone who can vote today please think about what @radwulf
are asking you to do.
1. Give up precious info from daemon by lynching someone who was in no way forced to declare what he has (including a declaration that he will not survive the day)
2. Lynch Joe today so that he can't use his ability at night (when we know that he has been the target of attacks during night 1 and 2 and has confirmed what his nta is and who he has targeted)
Re-1: Not true. Joe basically declared (#642) in response to Radwulf's role declaration (#620).
Re-2: Makes no sense. Joe declared an investigative role. If Joe does not lie, and he dies in the morning, then his investigation will likely not even happen this night (and he certainly cannot relay it to us). If Joe is evil, he might still be able to use whatever single-charge ability (i.e. doable once per entire game) he might possess (such as infect or kill someone).
The downside of lynching Joe now is we might not learn some useful information from his death (if he is innocent). The upside is that he might not be able to harm the town this night (if he is evil). It's a flip of the coin decision, and everyone should judge this decision based on other factors.
In my early morning post (#583) I pointed out that Joe behaves suspiciously and got no response. I let it go unanswered because more important information came to light (first Radwulf's declaration and then Joe's declaration). Looking back at everything, I do not feel Joe deserves more of my trust now, so I will likely vote for him.
blissie wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:42 am
Thank you for spotting this!
So... a nurse with cop like role you say?
This looks like an obvious mafia bandwagon to me. I do not even believe you bothered to understand what the "contradiction" is about.
Skuggi wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:30 am
Also, radwulf's theory of joesatri lying about being on the verge of death to squeak out one more day seems far fetched. If joesatri was/is mafia I would have expected him to continue attacking radwulf as he started the day.
I acknowledge this. It is the only argument that might still make me reconsider my vote.
Sander wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:37 am
As it is going at the moment, we can't even rally up enough people for a deadline Lynch. Let alone an instant Lynch and a deadline Lynch. So let us at least play with the active ones. Let Daemon sort out the inactive ones.
People keep bringing this up, but this is nonsense. Multiple instant lynches per day are not allowed. Read the rules.
Nanaa wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:11 pm
It makes little sense if nurse could only predict which townie dies next if lucky with targeting. The townie can shout that by himself too like Joesatri did. But Joesatri getting infected on night 2 could be fake since he could be mafia with higher temp already. But then again he was prevented to vote which might mean he is pro-town but really we can't know moves in Daemon's head.
Good point. But:
- It could have been an elaborate way for a mafia member to earn easy alibi (ask another member to use the silencing ability on yourself).
- He could have been targeted by a different faction (e.g. even by psycho).
- It is possible that he was converted to a mafia faction after the start of Night 1.
joesatri wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:59 pm
Yes, this is a themed game. Yes, the roles have a twist. HOWEVER, it is OBVIOUS (ever for a 5 year old
, that a cop and a doctor role are NOT to be combined.
Where am I going with this? This is a big mistake on radwulf's part, when he was making up his role. I'm not sure if he reharsed it front of a mirror, saying it outloud ("I am a NURSE. I am a NURSE. I AM A NURSE with a Cop-Type role, linked to a doctor"), but if he didn't, he should have! Saying it out loud, sounds bad
His role is a cop-type. In his place, I would have phrased it in a similar way. Because it is.
If you imply that Radwulf will become cop&doctor at the same time after the real doctor dies, then (a) we do not know if that is true (e.g. his original NTA might get replaced by the original doctor's NTA), and (b) that is not necessarily unbalanced in a game where many people claim that Moxy could indeed be a town-aligned Security Chief with entire two NTAs at once.
EscapedConvict wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:55 pm
1. Radwulf was instrumental in all the 3 deaths of of security guards.
He basically ynched Moxy (with the lynch campaign of all lynch campaigns) and Trigardon (cast the last bandwagon instant vote) and targeted Stringer at night (inplied fact, if you believe he is indeed maffia) based on Stringers previous posts where he defended the role of a security guard
Can you explain the bolded part? Where does the "implied fact" arise from?