Mafia 1 - The CROWN - GAME OVER!

[EscapedConvict]

@Emilly probably binge watched to much "True Detective" or "Dark"in this quaranyine and is confused in which parralel reality she currently is in.

Her vote change right after my post was too funny. (thought in fairness she probably didn't see my post first)

[phox]

With pleasure.
I already said I don't believe @Nanaa role and I'm for instant lynch.
About @blissie I would wait until he comes up with a role.
And please don't vote for Mary, let me investigate her.

and if he does not come up with a role? then what? haha joke is on us we didn't lynch anyone suspicious cause we waited around and were divided, just like last time....

[phox]

@Emilly probably binge watched to much "True Detective" or "Dark"in this quaranyine and is confused in which parralel reality she currently is in.

Her vote change right after my post was too funny. (thought in fairness she probably didn't see my post first)

my thoughts exactly =))

[Noni]

@Emilly probably binge watched to much "True Detective" or "Dark"in this quaranyine and is confused in which parralel reality she currently is in.

Her vote change right after my post was too funny. (thought in fairness she probably didn't see my post first)

what was even funnier was voting blissie 3 times in a row only to then unvote behemoth to vote blissie again. THEN unvote blisse to vote nanaa

it's hard to keep track of posts. especially on your phone. but still:)

[Clemens]

and if he does not come up with a role? then what? haha joke is on us we didn't lynch anyone suspicious cause we waited around and were divided, just like last time....

Hence I wanted a deadline.

[EscapedConvict]

With pleasure.
I already said I don't believe @Nanaa role and I'm for instant lynch.
About @blissie I would wait until he comes up with a role.
And please don't vote for Mary, let me investigate her.

oh NVM, she did it intentionally.

Seriously @Emilly , seems like you'are trying to undermine everything others are trying to put together.

[behemoth]

what was even funnier was voting blissie 3 times in a row only to then unvote behemoth to vote blissie again. THEN unvote blisse to vote nanaa

My oh my, I totally missed that

Emily - thanks for the clear as day explanation, care to also give us some info on your role?

[phox]

and if he does not come up with a role? then what? haha joke is on us we didn't lynch anyone suspicious cause we waited around and were divided, just like last time....

Hence I wanted a deadline.

Fine I say deadline is in max 3 hours, does anyone agree? @Noni @EscapedConvict @behemoth @Princess.ruxi @Gridfon @zero ?

(If I am wrong about this, maaaaaaaaaaan will I be crucified tomorrow)

[Emilly]

With pleasure.
I already said I don't believe @Nanaa role and I'm for instant lynch.
About @blissie I would wait until he comes up with a role.
And please don't vote for Mary, let me investigate her.

Are you sure you will survive tonight?

I am sure. If there is a doctor he can save me, and if not, in the worst case I will die the next night and tomorrow morning I will tell you what is with Mary. And if I die by a miracle ... kill her tomorrow anyway. Remember I told you not to kill radwulf and no one listened to me.
And if you insist
unvote Nanaa
vote blissie

[Noni]

what was even funnier was voting blissie 3 times in a row only to then unvote behemoth to vote blissie again. THEN unvote blisse to vote nanaa

My oh my, I totally missed that

Emily - thanks for the clear as day explanation, care to also give us some info on your role?

i genuinely think she kept forgetting that she already voted. nobody who is mafia would have such reckless voting surely.

[EscapedConvict]

and if he does not come up with a role? then what? haha joke is on us we didn't lynch anyone suspicious cause we waited around and were divided, just like last time....

Hence I wanted a deadline.

Fine I say deadline is in max 3 hours, does anyone agree? @Noni @EscapedConvict @behemoth @Princess.ruxi @Gridfon @zero ?

(If I am wrong about this, maaaaaaaaaaan will I be crucified tomorrow)

Sure but O won't go for @Nanaa next as I explained.
Not enough time. @Mary or @EscapedConvict should be next

Explain if you disagree.

[behemoth]

Valli, Skkugi, Rene, Televek - any takers on Blissie and/or possibly making a contribution that can actually make a difference?

[Noni]

With pleasure.
I already said I don't believe @Nanaa role and I'm for instant lynch.
About @blissie I would wait until he comes up with a role.
And please don't vote for Mary, let me investigate her.

Are you sure you will survive tonight?

I am sure. If there is a doctor he can save me, and if not, in the worst case I will die the next night and tomorrow morning I will tell you what is with Mary. And if I die by a miracle ... kill her tomorrow anyway. Remember I told you not to kill radwulf and no one listened to me.
And if you insist
unvote Nanaa
vote blissie

thanks emily - we are now at 9 on blissie. need 11 for that instant lynch

[phox]

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#Votes      | Voted Person      |  Voters                                         
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  9	    | Blissie	        |  Princess, Phox,Rene, Mary, Clemens, Behemot, EC, Noni, Emily     
  2	    | Nanna	        |  Gridfon, Skuggi,                                
  2	    | EscapedConvict	|  Zero, MrWaffles,                                
  2	    | Princess.ruxi	|  Blissie,Siderite                               
  1	    | Noni	        |  Telvek                                         
  1	    | Clemens	        |  Heffie   
  1         | Sander            |  Nanna
  1         | Joesatri          |  Bombaclaat  
  

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[Emilly]

@zero
@Telvek

[Clemens]

Fine I say deadline is in max 3 hours, does anyone agree? @Noni @EscapedConvict @behemoth @Princess.ruxi @Gridfon @zero ?

Alright, 3 hours from now - that should be 19 GMT?
But then avoid an insta-lynch until around then or the deadline was pointless all over again.

[zero]

I am supposed to be working...

Anyway, I will unvote EC for now and vote Blissie

Do I think he's mafia? Not sure, probably. The fact that he just popped by yesterday and voted for radwulf and then disappeared without a trace makes him useless to the town even if he is on our side.

[behemoth]

Looks like we have the required votes for the instant lynch.

Phox / Clemens - I don't think the deadline will do much at this point. Blissie most likely won't come back with anything worth the wait, and in the very unlikely scenario that he is not guilty, we will get rid of dead weight (i.e., inactive suspicious player who doesn't contribute anything meaningful and votes for townies)

Meanwhile, who do we want to direct our next instant lynch against - Naana or Siderite? We probably have time for one more before we return to Mary/EC.

I propose we go with Siderite, then take out Mary/EC, and then Emily can investigate Naana at night.

[Clemens]

Phox / Clemens - I don't think the deadline will do much at this point. Blissie most likely won't come back with anything worth the wait

I won't disagree with that statement, but a deadline at least ensures we won't be waiting around forever and have a definite time set to move on.

[Noni]

Looks like we have the required votes for the instant lynch.

Phox / Clemens - I don't think the deadline will do much at this point. Blissie most likely won't come back with anything worth the wait, and in the very unlikely scenario that he is not guilty, we will get rid of dead weight (i.e., inactive suspicious player who doesn't contribute anything meaningful and votes for townies)

Meanwhile, who do we want to direct our next instant lynch against - Naana or Siderite? We probably have time for one more before we return to Mary/EC.

I propose we go with Siderite, then take out Mary/EC, and then Emily can investigate Naana at night.

we have 10 need 11 . what am i missing?

[Emilly]

Looks like we have the required votes for the instant lynch.

Phox / Clemens - I don't think the deadline will do much at this point. Blissie most likely won't come back with anything worth the wait, and in the very unlikely scenario that he is not guilty, we will get rid of dead weight (i.e., inactive suspicious player who doesn't contribute anything meaningful and votes for townies)

Meanwhile, who do we want to direct our next instant lynch against - Naana or Siderite? We probably have time for one more before we return to Mary/EC.

I propose we go with Siderite, then take out Mary/EC, and then Emily can investigate Naana at night.

I think we have 10 votes...one more. Maybe @Gridfon

[EscapedConvict]

Looks like we have the required votes for the instant lynch.

Phox / Clemens - I don't think the deadline will do much at this point. Blissie most likely won't come back with anything worth the wait, and in the very unlikely scenario that he is not guilty, we will get rid of dead weight (i.e., inactive suspicious player who doesn't contribute anything meaningful and votes for townies)

Meanwhile, who do we want to direct our next instant lynch against - Naana or Siderite? We probably have time for one more before we return to Mary/EC.

I propose we go with Siderite, then take out Mary/EC, and then Emily can investigate Naana at night.

@Sander , hm...can someone post a summary of him or do I have to go back and do this one too?
I do remember his poetry and ramblings but anything else?

[behemoth]

we have 10 need 11 . what am i missing?

my bad, I miscalculated

[phox]

Looks like we have the required votes for the instant lynch.

Phox / Clemens - I don't think the deadline will do much at this point. Blissie most likely won't come back with anything worth the wait, and in the very unlikely scenario that he is not guilty, we will get rid of dead weight (i.e., inactive suspicious player who doesn't contribute anything meaningful and votes for townies)

Meanwhile, who do we want to direct our next instant lynch against - Naana or Siderite? We probably have time for one more before we return to Mary/EC.

I propose we go with Siderite, then take out Mary/EC, and then Emily can investigate Naana at night.

@Siderite never did anything in this game to help us to be honest. Does anyone disagree? We have enough time for one more scum before the twins I agree, not sure if it's @Siderite though or waffles nana telvek sander.

@Clemens shheeesh clemens why are you so obsessed with me and that deadline, are you gonna use it against me or smth in the future, in case I was wrong about blissie ? you have been bugging me with it for a super long time.

[Clemens]

And suddenly we're all in a rush to just kill off blissie.
So we're not waiting (a limited period of time) for a reaction?

[Princess.ruxi]

With pleasure.
I already said I don't believe @Nanaa role and I'm for instant lynch.
About @blissie I would wait until he comes up with a role.
And please don't vote for Mary, let me investigate her.

Are you sure you will survive tonight?

I am sure. If there is a doctor he can save me, and if not, in the worst case I will die the next night and tomorrow morning I will tell you what is with Mary. And if I die by a miracle ... kill her tomorrow anyway. Remember I told you not to kill radwulf and no one listened to me.
And if you insist
unvote Nanaa
vote blissie

Don't forget it's night 4. I also expect to have a violent death (like the hammer and knife) besides the usual infection. It happened on nights 0 and 2. I believe we have a vigillante or psycho or something similar that can kill every 2 nights

[Noni]

Looks like we have the required votes for the instant lynch.

Phox / Clemens - I don't think the deadline will do much at this point. Blissie most likely won't come back with anything worth the wait, and in the very unlikely scenario that he is not guilty, we will get rid of dead weight (i.e., inactive suspicious player who doesn't contribute anything meaningful and votes for townies)

Meanwhile, who do we want to direct our next instant lynch against - Naana or Siderite? We probably have time for one more before we return to Mary/EC.

I propose we go with Siderite, then take out Mary/EC, and then Emily can investigate Naana at night.

@Siderite never did anything in this game to help us to be honest. Does anyone disagree? We have enough time for one more scum before the twins I agree, not sure if it's @Siderite though or waffles nana telvek sander.

@Clemens shheeesh clemens why are you so obsessed with me and that deadline, are you gonna use it against me or smth in the future, in case I was wrong about blissie ? you have been bugging me with it for a super long time.

you crack me up. yeah @Clemens why are you so obsessed with @phox ? you wanna see what it's like on the other side of the obsession for a change?:)))

[phox]

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#Votes      | Voted Person      |  Voters                                         
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  10	    | Blissie	        |  Princess, Phox,Rene, Mary, Clemens, Behemot, EC, Noni, Emily, Zero     
  2	    | Nanna	        |  Gridfon, Skuggi,                                
  1	    | EscapedConvict	|  MrWaffles,                                
  2	    | Princess.ruxi	|  Blissie,Siderite                               
  1	    | Noni	        |  Telvek                                         
  1	    | Clemens	        |  Heffie   
  1         | Sander            |  Nanna
  1         | Joesatri          |  Bombaclaat  
  

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[Noni]

Looks like we have the required votes for the instant lynch.

Phox / Clemens - I don't think the deadline will do much at this point. Blissie most likely won't come back with anything worth the wait, and in the very unlikely scenario that he is not guilty, we will get rid of dead weight (i.e., inactive suspicious player who doesn't contribute anything meaningful and votes for townies)

Meanwhile, who do we want to direct our next instant lynch against - Naana or Siderite? We probably have time for one more before we return to Mary/EC.

I propose we go with Siderite, then take out Mary/EC, and then Emily can investigate Naana at night.

agree with siderite/nanaa and leave mary/ec for last. but also want to add mr waffles to the list.

[Gridfon]

@Gridfon, what do you think about all of this?

I think that 2pm-6pm time slot on Monday is not the best time to produce 4 new pages of posts. I'm working from home, at my PC, and can generally permit myself regular distractions, but even I find it hard to keep myself up to speed today.

Fine I say deadline is in max 3 hours, does anyone agree? @Noni @EscapedConvict @behemoth @Princess.ruxi @Gridfon @zero ?

(If I am wrong about this, maaaaaaaaaaan will I be crucified tomorrow)

I'm happy with a 19 GMT deadline for lynching @blissie. As it stands now, I will vote against Blissie at 19 GMT.

I do want to give them a chance to declare role (and make a mistake, or clear their name - but the latter quite unlikely). If they do not - it's basically a blind lynch, that could unfortunately benefit the mafia. But I think Blissie will be eliminated by Daemon in 24h either way, I'm up for this Russian Roulette because it could help us get more clarity about the game before the end of the day.

[Noni]

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#Votes      | Voted Person      |  Voters                                         
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  9	    | Blissie	        |  Princess, Phox,Rene, Mary, Clemens, Behemot, EC, Noni, Emily, Zero     
  2	    | Nanna	        |  Gridfon, Skuggi,                                
  1	    | EscapedConvict	|  MrWaffles,                                
  2	    | Princess.ruxi	|  Blissie,Siderite                               
  1	    | Noni	        |  Telvek                                         
  1	    | Clemens	        |  Heffie   
  1         | Sander            |  Nanna
  1         | Joesatri          |  Bombaclaat  
  

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blissie has 10

[Clemens]

you crack me up. yeah @Clemens why are you so obsessed with @phox ? you wanna see what it's like on the other side of the obsession for a change?:)))

@Clemens shheeesh clemens why are you so obsessed with me and that deadline, are you gonna use it against me or smth in the future, in case I was wrong about blissie ? you have been bugging me with it for a super long time.

Because right now I trust you enough to listen, but this also means I want decisive actions that will help figuring you out later down the line.
At this point, I don't know if blissie is guilty.

[phox]

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#Votes      | Voted Person      |  Voters                                         
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  10	    | Blissie	        |  Princess, Phox,Rene, Mary, Clemens, Behemot, EC, Noni, Emily, Zero     
  2	    | Nanna	        |  Gridfon, Skuggi,                                
  1	    | EscapedConvict	|  MrWaffles,                                
  2	    | Princess.ruxi	|  Blissie,Siderite                               
  1	    | Noni	        |  Telvek                                         
  1	    | Clemens	        |  Heffie   
  1         | Sander            |  Nanna
  1         | Joesatri          |  Bombaclaat  
  

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yeah I saw now too , thanks noni

[Princess.ruxi]

Proposal:

• Deal with Blissie
  Deal with Siderite - no actual contribution to the game
  Deal with the twins
  Emilly investigates Nanaa. Hopefully makes it alive to tell the results.
  Waffles blocks whomever we choose tonight.

Yay or nay?

[Emilly]

Are you sure you will survive tonight?

I am sure. If there is a doctor he can save me, and if not, in the worst case I will die the next night and tomorrow morning I will tell you what is with Mary. And if I die by a miracle ... kill her tomorrow anyway. Remember I told you not to kill radwulf and no one listened to me.
And if you insist
unvote Nanaa
vote blissie

Don't forget it's night 4. I also expect to have a violent death (like the hammer and knife) besides the usual infection. It happened on nights 0 and 2. I believe we have a vigillante or psycho or something similar that can kill every 2 nights

If @Mary is mafia, vigilante will leave me alive to kill her tomorrow. if I die at night, instant lynch tomorrow morning. And if anything wrong happens to @EscapedConvict , you can kill me tomorrow. Fair enough?

[Emilly]

Proposal:

• Deal with Blissie
  Deal with Siderite - no actual contribution to the game
  Deal with the twins
  Emilly investigates Nanaa. Hopefully makes it alive to tell the results.
  Waffles blocks whomever we choose tonight.

Yay or nay?

Nay (no deal with the twins)

[EscapedConvict]

Proposal:

• Deal with Blissie
  Deal with Siderite - no actual contribution to the game
  Deal with the twins
  Emilly investigates Nanaa. Hopefully makes it alive to tell the results.
  Waffles blocks whomever we choose tonight.

Yay or nay?

Agreed, If we deal with Blissie and Nanna before 1400 GMT tomorrow 4/28 at which point I will vote for the twins as I said

[EscapedConvict]

I am sure. If there is a doctor he can save me, and if not, in the worst case I will die the next night and tomorrow morning I will tell you what is with Mary. And if I die by a miracle ... kill her tomorrow anyway. Remember I told you not to kill radwulf and no one listened to me.
And if you insist
unvote Nanaa
vote blissie

Don't forget it's night 4. I also expect to have a violent death (like the hammer and knife) besides the usual infection. It happened on nights 0 and 2. I believe we have a vigillante or psycho or something similar that can kill every 2 nights

If @Mary is mafia, vigilante will leave me alive to kill her tomorrow. if I die at night, instant lynch tomorrow morning. And if anything wrong happens to @EscapedConvict , you can kill me tomorrow. Fair enough?

Nope. Twins need to be killed off today, D3

[phox]

Proposal:

• Deal with Blissie
  Deal with Siderite - no actual contribution to the game
  Deal with the twins
  Emilly investigates Nanaa. Hopefully makes it alive to tell the results.
  Waffles blocks whomever we choose tonight.

Yay or nay?

sounds good to me. @Gridfon we miss your lovely facts and logic, come baaaack : )

[phox]

Nope. Twins need to be killed off today, D3

How weird would it be if EC had a win condition stating he wins the game if he manages to kill of him and his twin on D3 ... that would be weeeird. is it even possible?

[Noni]

Nope. Twins need to be killed off today, D3

How weird would it be if EC had a win condition stating he wins the game if he manages to kill of him and his twin on D3 ... that would be weeeird. is it even possible?

No cause if he wins the game would end ans daemon would not do that to us in our first game in ages

[EscapedConvict]

Nope. Twins need to be killed off today, D3

How weird would it be if EC had a win condition stating he wins the game if he manages to kill of him and his twin on D3 ... that would be weeeird. is it even possible?

Thats very extreme.

No.

[phox]

Nope. Twins need to be killed off today, D3

How weird would it be if EC had a win condition stating he wins the game if he manages to kill of him and his twin on D3 ... that would be weeeird. is it even possible?

Thats very extreme.

No.

I know ))) it's just funny how you are very exact about the date and the hour you will vote for @Mary

[Noni]

How weird would it be if EC had a win condition stating he wins the game if he manages to kill of him and his twin on D3 ... that would be weeeird. is it even possible?

Thats very extreme.

No.

I know ))) it's just funny how you are very exact about the date and the hour you will vote for @Mary

Who did you think you were dealing with? Amateurs?

[EscapedConvict]

How weird would it be if EC had a win condition stating he wins the game if he manages to kill of him and his twin on D3 ... that would be weeeird. is it even possible?

Thats very extreme.

No.

I know ))) it's just funny how you are very exact about the date and the hour you will vote for @Mary

I need to, don't want confusion to steal the time we have left.
I made up my mind. Just trying to keep things structured.

[Emilly]

Nope. Twins need to be killed off today, D3

How weird would it be if EC had a win condition stating he wins the game if he manages to kill of him and his twin on D3 ... that would be weeeird. is it even possible?

Everything is possible with Daemon.

[behemoth]

Possible, but extremely unlikely.

I agree on the twins having to go by the end of the day, we can't risk another infection.

That leaves us with possibly one more instant lynch, which I nominate Siderite for - between him and Nanaa, he seems more suspicious. Emily can investigate Nanaa at night, and we can pick up the next day with Nanaa and Mr. Waffles.

[Gridfon]

Here is a summary of role claims & NTA usage so far. Please add to it/make corrections as needed. I will fill in the dead players later tonight.
<snip>

I was sitting on a fence about whether/when I want to post the notes I have been taking throughout today (this helps the town to find contradictions, but this also helps mafia to avoid contradictions in their role declarations... I'm not sure whether it's ultimately good or bad to put this information out in the public). But if you want to go in this direction, I can save you some effort:

"I am rather unwell and cannot vote today" crowd:
Day 1: joesatri (post #31)
Day 2: Noni (post #584)
Day 3: Sander (post #1050)

"I am going to die next morning" crowd:
Day 1: ---
Day 2: joesatri (#642)
Day 3: Princess.ruxi (post #1014)

"I had a visitor and I'm compelled to vote for ... our discussion was inspired and eye-opening and I simply cannot vote for anyone else, anything else or abstain" crowd:
Day 1: Noni against zero (post #716)
Day 2: valli against Trigardon (posts #665 and #1021)
Day 3: Bombaclaat against josatri (post #995)

"I had mandatory cleaning previous night" crowd:
Day 1: ?
Day 2: joesatri (#642)
Day 3: ?

Role declarations of dead town people:
Moxy: #180
N1: blocked Trigardon and sent message to Skuggi

Radwulf: #620
N1: Adela's temperature normal
N2: Joesatri's temperature higher than normal

Joesatri: #714
N1: Radwulf left his room
N2: EspacedConvict did not leave his room (#946)

Unconfirmed role declarations:
Princess.ruxi: #1014
N1: Behemoth did not leave her room
N2: MrWaffles visited Noni
N3: EC did not leave his room

Noni: #716
N1: Radwulf was visited by nobody (#1274)
N2: Behemoth was visited by nobody (#1223)
N3: Gridfon was visited by nobody (#1191)

MrWaffles: #1050
N1: Joesatri ate poisoned food
N2: Noni ate poisoned food
N3: Sander ate poisoned food

Sander: #1137
N2: Joesatri received limited supplies
N3: Clemens received limited supplies

Gridfon: #1138
N1: Stringer had no infection in his room
N2: Radwulf had no infection in his room
N3: Clemens had traces of infection in his room

Clemens: #1196/#1207
EscapedConvict: #992 (ish)
Mary: #1003/#1034/#1218 (ish)
Nanaa: #1221

There we go. You can start working on inventing your own, town-looking role declaration now @behemoth.

[Emilly]

We need one more vote for @blissie

[Noni]

why is there no night 1 target for sander?