Mafia 1 - The CROWN - GAME OVER!

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Is this a clue?

One would sit down and meditate upon the definite misfortune of having been the trigger of it all.

As in One? Then they became one?

Because the trigger in Emily's death was Clemens. As in:
Clemens wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:09 pm
Why are we exposing more roles? :?
Emilly wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:56 am
N2 Escaped Convict - not infected with Corona Virus
[...]
This is exactly how I received the information and I found the answer about EC strange. This is why I insist that we do not kill Mary until I investigate her.
Can you elaborate what you mean by strange? EC said he is innocent and you're saying he is not infected.
Emilly wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:56 am
N3 Clemens - not infected
So why did you investigate me of all players?
Emilly wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:21 pm
@Clemens it's interesting why @Gridfon found the virus in the air in your room, and when I investigated you, you came out clean. Very strange.
If I investigate Godfather, will he come out clean?
Clemens wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:37 pm
Emilly wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:10 pm
I asked Daemon too...swab technique (from the throat/nose). It is a very unpleasant method.
Leaving aside the same problem I had with @Gridfon's claim, that it sounds like I would not sleep through that. :D

This is a bigger problem I currently have:
Noni wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:02 am
My NTA involves being able to hang around somebody's door at night to see if anything of interest is going on.
On the first night I checked radwulf. He didn't get visited by anyone.
Emilly wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:56 am
Every night I can take samples from someone and analyze them to find out if they are infected with the virus.
N1 Radwulf - not infected

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#2052

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MrWaffles wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:55 pm
Hey guys,

It's really nice you were right about Emilly, but this is the second infected role we have seen. Does this mean that everyone else we have lynched till now was town?

-MrWaffles
Except for Blissie who was a third faction. Nanaa acknowledged that.

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MrWaffles wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:59 pm
EscapedConvict wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:54 pm
We have 2 hours left

I think disposing of @Mary ia still a priority ...

In truth, I don't want to go today but I might just have to
EC, I'll vote for you if you don't agree with Princess.ruxi's plan that we should just wait until you and Mary are uncoupled. But I think you'd be better off being uncoupled. If Mafia infect you tonight, we will most likely lynch Mary immediately in the morning. Also this forces Mafia to waste one of their infections getting rid of you.

-MrWaffles
A sound plan but maybe I am subjective sue to my desire to live.

Who are we voting next then?

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Image

Points finger of suspicion...

Mary, Nanaa & Rene

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Princess.ruxi wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:00 pm
MrWaffles wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:55 pm
Hey guys,

It's really nice you were right about Emilly, but this is the second infected role we have seen. Does this mean that everyone else we have lynched till now was town?

-MrWaffles
Except for Blissie who was a third faction. Nanaa acknowledged that.
3rd faction pro town or against? Math is different from one scenario to the other.

And if against, why aren't we lynching @Nanaa then next?
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Vote Nanaa

Because a 1:1 trade with the mafia is attrition warfare.

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Yeah, Blissie not quite a townie. Third party factions are trying to win the game.

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#2058

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As he confessed his sins, fine with me. vote Nanaa

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#2059

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Emilly spent most of the day trying to stop the lynch against Mary. Why?

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are we in agreement @Nanaa has to go?

Vote Nanna to add urgency since only 2 hours left

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EscapedConvict wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:06 pm
Princess.ruxi wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:00 pm
MrWaffles wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:55 pm
Hey guys,

It's really nice you were right about Emilly, but this is the second infected role we have seen. Does this mean that everyone else we have lynched till now was town?

-MrWaffles
Except for Blissie who was a third faction. Nanaa acknowledged that.
3rd faction pro town or against? Math is different from one scenario to the other.

And if against, why aren't we lynching @Nanaa then next?
I don't see how flat earthers and conspiracy theorists are pro-science /pro-Town.

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Gridfon wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:08 pm
Emilly spent most of the day trying to stop the lynch against Mary. Why?
Because they are both "infected", aka, mafia.

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Gridfon wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:08 pm
Emilly spent most of the day trying to stop the lynch against Mary. Why?
Because Mary is mafia, like EC said a couple of times.

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Gridfon wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:08 pm
Emilly spent most of the day trying to stop the lynch against Mary. Why?
This is important!

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I think Third party counts as townies until we lynch mafia. Does it make sense?
I would rather go for Mary and not risk another infection tonight

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vote Nanaa

then we go for @Mary

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There 's no time

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Princess.ruxi wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:13 pm
There 's no time
The day is extended. There's almost 2h left.

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Princess.ruxi wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:11 pm
I think Third party counts as townies until we lynch mafia. Does it make sense?
I would rather go for Mary and not risk another infection tonight
Aren't there 9 mafia players in the game? Like 1/3 of the 28 we started with. Can't any of them kill at night?

By the way I'm happy to vote Mary/EC today, but could we do better than sacrifice one town for one mafia? Do we lose anything by waiting for the decoupling?

-MrWaffles

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If we don't get enough votes to instant lynch @Nanaa by 20:30 GMT, I will switch vote to @EC in order to lynch @Mary.

I believe @Nanaa got activated because of @Blissie's lynching and I don't know what that means but it sounds dangerous. Moreover, her plea bargaining makes me think that it is important for her to survive today for all of this to matter.

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#2071

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@Princess.ruxi what are you waiting for?

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Princess.ruxi wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:11 pm
I think Third party counts as townies until we lynch mafia. Does it make sense?
I would rather go for Mary and not risk another infection tonight
Unless all 3 are trying to win the game at the same time.

But yeah, you repeated too and I said countless times, lynching @Mary before dark maybe shoild be our biggest priority.

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zero wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:15 pm
If we don't get enough votes to instant lynch @Nanaa by 20:30 GMT, I will switch vote to @EC in order to lynch @Mary.

I believe @Nanaa got activated because of @Blissie's lynching and I don't know what that means but it sounds dangerous. Moreover, her plea bargaining makes me think that it is important for her to survive today for all of this to matter.
I'm agreeing more with zero than I ever thought I would. I will do the same if @EscapedConvict is on board?

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zero wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:15 pm
If we don't get enough votes to instant lynch @Nanaa by 20:30 GMT, I will switch vote to @EC in order to lynch @Mary.

I believe @Nanaa got activated because of @Blissie's lynching and I don't know what that means but it sounds dangerous. Moreover, her plea bargaining makes me think that it is important for her to survive today for all of this to matter.
I think I'm on board with this since Nanaa has admitted to being a third faction and it seems hostile to the research station. I don't know what his power can do tonight. vote: Nanaa

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vote Nanna I agree we need to speed things up and naana already has a lot of votes

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We can try making a run for it

Vote Nanaa

If in 40 mins from now we don't get enough votes, we go for Mary

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Emilly wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:56 am
I promised you all information I have, in case something happens to me at night.

Every night I can take samples from someone and analyze them to find out if they are infected with the virus.
N1 Radwulf - not infected
N2 Escaped Convict - not infected with Corona Virus
N3 Clemens - not infected
N1: Emilly claimed Radwulf in an attempt to gain credibility.
N2: She cast doubt on EC, and that is in line with her trying to defend Mary.
N3: She attempted to help Clemens gain more trust. Clemens becomes ever more suspicious now.

I would agree to lynch Mary or Clemens next. But if lynching Mary also kills EC, then I'm not sure. Why was Emilly so desperate to save Mary today, does the mafia team gain anything substantial by saving Mary for at least 1 more night? Or may be...

Next morning Emilly would come back and claim that her NTA exonerates Mary from being infected. Would try to lynch EC for lying next? That would kill Mary. Unless they managed to de-couple this night? It all sounds like some stalemate and it's not clear to me what to do about Mary+EC.

Typo fixed in bold.
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I don't mind voting against Nanaa, but I'm not as concerned about him. It's clear that his daytime votes will go against the interest of the town, but I'm also mindful of reducing the non-mafia vs. mafia ratio too low (if the "non-mafia" happens to include the crazies like Nanaa).

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Noni wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:17 pm
zero wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:15 pm
If we don't get enough votes to instant lynch @Nanaa by 20:30 GMT, I will switch vote to @EC in order to lynch @Mary.

I believe @Nanaa got activated because of @Blissie's lynching and I don't know what that means but it sounds dangerous. Moreover, her plea bargaining makes me think that it is important for her to survive today for all of this to matter.
I'm agreeing more with zero than I ever thought I would. I will do the same if @EscapedConvict is on board?
Sure but maybe vote @Mary instead now that we know how vehemently her scum friend defended her?

If you want to make me feel more comfortable before sacrificing myself for the town maybe? 😁

Also there is a slight chance for me to live that way IF (huge if) in case I am decoupled from her already

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Just to go through some posts again concerning @Emilly
valli wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:21 pm
@Emilly I am really curious about you now and your investigative role
And gridfon and ruxi pushing me back ...
Princess.ruxi wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:26 pm
valli wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:25 pm
Gridfon wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:37 pm


Perhaps we should not reveal all the investigative roles just yet, for the sake of it? It's quite reckless of you asking for Emilly's role prior to declaring your own.
Yes, but boosting around with your investigative abilities is also not the best way to go ...
I agree with Gridfon. Leave it as it is. I have no reason to suspect Emilly.

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#2081

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vote Nanaa

Sorry for the delay. I'm working at the same time. Worst day for this to happen. I've caught zero fraud in real life today.

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#2082

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and just for info, I will switch to vote @Mary once we reach sunset

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EscapedConvict wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:23 pm
Noni wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:17 pm
zero wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:15 pm
If we don't get enough votes to instant lynch @Nanaa by 20:30 GMT, I will switch vote to @EC in order to lynch @Mary.

I believe @Nanaa got activated because of @Blissie's lynching and I don't know what that means but it sounds dangerous. Moreover, her plea bargaining makes me think that it is important for her to survive today for all of this to matter.
I'm agreeing more with zero than I ever thought I would. I will do the same if @EscapedConvict is on board?
Sure but maybe vote @Mary instead now that we know how vehemently her scum friend defended her?

If you want to make me feel more comfortable before sacrificing myself for the town maybe? 😁

Also there is a slight chance for me to live that way IF (huge if) in case I am decoupled from her already
Yes I will vote her instead. What if you will be decoupled tonight?! And that's why Emily pushed do save her,knowing full well that if we vote you tomorrow it will only kill you? Or am I just going crazy trying to find a reason why she would defend a known mafia?

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Yessssss!!! I knew it!!! :D :D :D

Down to business as we don't have much time vote: nanaa

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valli wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:23 pm
Just to go through some posts again concerning @Emilly
valli wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:21 pm
@Emilly I am really curious about you now and your investigative role
And gridfon and ruxi pushing me back ...
Princess.ruxi wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:26 pm
valli wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:25 pm


Yes, but boosting around with your investigative abilities is also not the best way to go ...
I agree with Gridfon. Leave it as it is. I have no reason to suspect Emilly.
yeah because all of us thought she was a doctor or smth similar to that cause she kept hinting it from the beginning of the game.

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#2086

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Heffie wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:26 pm
Yessssss!!! I knew it!!! :D :D :D

Down to business as we don't have much time vote: nanaa
And you had a bit part in it! Thanks for explaining it so clearly. I could not do it myself due to working!

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#2087

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10 required for instant lynch

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8 Nanaa: Bombaclaat, valli, EscapedConvict, zero, MrWaffles, phox, behemoth, Noni

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I think that's 9, how many do we need? We should get to Mary before EOD

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#2089

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Alright, this is good news to come back to.

Noni is still on my list, but EC/Mary have higher priority.
Also, @Emilly might have been overly dramatic, but she kept calling out @phox for BETRAYAL, and @phox tried equally hard to defend @Emilly before she gave up. :D
Gridfon wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:08 pm
Emilly spent most of the day trying to stop the lynch against Mary. Why?
I suspect her claims had two uses; paint me as Godfather and protect @Mary.

I would prefer first dealing with the twins as promised and after dealing with @Nanaa (or tomorrow).
Think about it, the remaining hidden Mafia players would have a very strong desire to distract from the obvious twin problem and recuperate their loss with a conspirator kill at least.

vote EscapedConvict (or @Mary if that one is easier)

Any innocent voting for Nanaa before the twins, please reconsider.
Any guilty voting for Nanaa instead, I understand, you won't reconsider.

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#2090

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Fine. vote Nanaa

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Heffie wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:28 pm
I think that's 9, how many do we need? We should get to Mary before EOD
We need 10. We now have 9.

(9) Nanaa: Bombaclaat, valli, EscapedConvict, zero, MrWaffles, phox, behemoth, Noni, Heffie

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#2092

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10 required for instant lynch

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10 Nanaa: Bombaclaat, valli, EscapedConvict, zero, MrWaffles, phox, behemoth, Noni, Heffie, Princess.ruxi
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#2093

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Nanna (9) bombaclaat, valli, EC, zero, waffles, phox, behemoth, noni, heffie

@Gridfon are you gonna vote?

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#2094

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We have 10 now with the princess.

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EscapedConvict wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:23 pm
Also there is a slight chance for me to live that way IF (huge if) in case I am decoupled from her already
I'll vote Mary rather than you at this point. Both of you agree that you are coupled and at least one of you has to be Mafia because you are directly contradicting one another. You are trying to kill both, which gives town an advantage. Mary is trying to save both, which hurts the town. Also, Emilly tried very hard to save Mary (to the point of losing her own life).

If you are decoupled, that's great. Otherwise, it's still better for the town. Of course, I assume we will investigate the crap out of you if you don't die when we lynch Mary.

-MrWaffles

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Clemens wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:29 pm
Alright, this is good news to come back to.

Noni is still on my list, but EC/Mary have higher priority.
Also, @Emilly might have been overly dramatic, but she kept calling out @phox for BETRAYAL, and @phox tried equally hard to defend @Emilly before she gave up. :D
Gridfon wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:08 pm
Emilly spent most of the day trying to stop the lynch against Mary. Why?
I suspect her claims had two uses; paint me as Godfather and protect @Mary.

I would prefer first dealing with the twins as promised and after dealing with @Nanaa (or tomorrow).
Think about it, the remaining hidden Mafia players would have a very strong desire to distract from the obvious twin problem and recuperate their loss with a conspirator kill at least.

vote EscapedConvict (or @Mary if that one is easier)

Any innocent voting for Nanaa before the twins, please reconsider.
Any guilty voting for Nanaa instead, I understand, you won't reconsider.
Why are you voting against @EscapedConvict instead of voting against @Mary? Presumably Emilly now made Mary a safe lynch choice, and we don't need to be too cautious with lynching @EscapedConvict instead?

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Noni wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:26 pm
EscapedConvict wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:23 pm
Noni wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:17 pm


I'm agreeing more with zero than I ever thought I would. I will do the same if @EscapedConvict is on board?
Sure but maybe vote @Mary instead now that we know how vehemently her scum friend defended her?

If you want to make me feel more comfortable before sacrificing myself for the town maybe? 😁

Also there is a slight chance for me to live that way IF (huge if) in case I am decoupled from her already
Yes I will vote her instead. What if you will be decoupled tonight?! And that's why Emily pushed do save her,knowing full well that if we vote you tomorrow it will only kill you? Or am I just going crazy trying to find a reason why she would defend a known mafia?
I think you're just going crazy




😁 to borrow a page from your "off the cuff blunt replies" book

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#2098

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I'd rather vote for Mary too. If Daemon will move fast with the story

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Let's not get confused. EC had been helping us and Mary is a suspect by all accounts. We should be voting for the guilty party after nanaa is gone.

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Gridfon wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:31 pm
Why are you voting against @EscapedConvict instead of voting against @Mary? Presumably Emilly now made Mary a safe lynch choice, and we don't need to be too cautious with lynching @EscapedConvict instead?
Because EC will vote for himself (that's 1 additional vote), while Mary will not.

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