Game of Mafia

Clemens

Since we still have 20 minutes, what are the signs that he is a conspirator? His very odd behavior? Is there a role that forces someone to act like a fool? And if so, what is usually associated with this role? (Because I don't know.) I will admit that a role like that would fit to the conspirators, ...

Clemens

EscapedConvict Nice playing with you (have we played together before?), that was a really weird role. Mary My commiserations, this was a really difficult role to play. And if we hadn't been as desperate from all those townies dying so quickly early on, things may have been different. Nice playing w...

Clemens

phox wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:26 pm

To me @Clemens you are the one not making so much sense..

You keep flip-flopping between remorse and accusations.

Clemens

behemoth wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:24 pm
That's because he is not the same faction as Emilly

Just to clarify, you mean his really strange behavior, right?

Clemens

behemoth wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:18 pm
Can we pleeeease vote Siderite now

I'm wary of voting for @Siderite since @Emilly (and @phox) had no qualms of doing so.

Clemens

@Clemens you were the one STALLING . I've been preaching, today and yesterday after blissie was lynched, about the numerical balance between townie and mafia, together with the third party being anti-mafia in terms of numbers. So no, I did what I was doing the entire time - prioritizing lynching Ma...

Clemens

Gridfon wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:02 pm
That's a delusional proposition. Mary did not want to die today and would not have voted to lynch herself if that vote mattered.

It's just funny, nothing else.

Clemens

valli wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:56 pm
9 Mary: EscapedConvict, zero, MrWaffles, valli, clemens, Princess.ruxi, Bombaclaat, behemoth, Gridfon
1 EscapedConvict: Mary

There is a certain irony there, considering we'd have ten votes on EC now, huh?

EDIT: Can't math.

Clemens

EC can also vote against Mary, if we agree on that. That does not change much. Or do you assume that Mary would vote against EC, and then that gives the 1 extra vote? She might vote for EC, but not for herself. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me which one (as I said). I was more concerned by killing...

Clemens

Gridfon wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:31 pm
Why are you voting against @EscapedConvict instead of voting against @Mary? Presumably Emilly now made Mary a safe lynch choice, and we don't need to be too cautious with lynching @EscapedConvict instead?

Because EC will vote for himself (that's 1 additional vote), while Mary will not.

Clemens

Alright, this is good news to come back to. Noni is still on my list, but EC/Mary have higher priority. Also, Emilly might have been overly dramatic, but she kept calling out phox for BETRAYAL, and @phox tried equally hard to defend Emilly before she gave up. :D Emilly spent most of the day trying t...

Clemens

Skuggi wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:11 pm
This seem to fit much better into what we have seen before, such as Gridfon's role:

And mine, which I subtly hinted at. (Gridfon picked up on it.)

Clemens

1. it really does matter which one dies first, cause if you get the mafia first you don't need to kill the townie after, but I guess for you it's all the same? Because I think both of them are guilty, and even a 1:1 trade-off is numerically worth it at this point. I still want to deal with the twin...

Clemens

phox wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:01 pm
@Clemens I AM NOT STALLING , i have no bleeping idea what to do and my head hurts, why are you being obsessed with me and deadlines again? )

Because you're stalling.
If we kill both, it matters little which one first.

Clemens

Emilly How about lynching you and then her? If only one is lying, 1:1 trade-off. That was my idea because i am clean. She can not say that. But you're not actually following up with your idea. Also, was it really your idea? Because: As controversial as this sounds, I am willing to vote for both Non...

Clemens

@Emilly
How about lynching you and then her?
If only one is lying, 1:1 trade-off.

Clemens

Where is your vote, valli?

Clemens

phox wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:51 pm
well I am not comfortable voting for either of them currently I FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME as I did before the whole RADWULF/JOE problem. I am waiting [...]

Time for a deadline, @phox.
You are stalling.

Clemens

Yeah, labs don't usually have administrators IRL. Am I wrong? Depends on the lab. But some do. Also, the whole "lab" vs "facility" debate feels like semantics, because a facility has more than just a lab in it. We already know this and we can suspect there are more sections as well: - a garden, som...

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:34 pm
Let us lynch nony and then me! Too many townies are dead, just think!

If you turn out innocent, I promise to lynch Noni.
If Noni turns out innocent, I promise to lynch Emilly.

Clemens

I checked, from the beginning of the new-vote-stage, again. When are we getting automatic votes? :D This is causing me a headache. Emilly: 5 Noni, Clemens, zero, Skuggi, Bombaclaat Noni: 3 ruxi, Emilly, Siderite EC: 2 behemoth, EC Telvek: 1 Heffie Unvoted: valli phox No votes: Gridfon Mary MrWaffles...

Clemens

Princess.ruxi wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:14 pm
Please focus people. Noni is mafia! She is just a very smart player!

Yes, hence I would like to lynch both of them.
I think the big confusion may have been a slip up of individuals within a collective.
I am convinced that at least one of them is lying, if not both.

Clemens

EscapedConvict wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:13 pm
If an ability has one purpose (to protect someone)

Depends on the context of protection.
"to protect from infections, by giving out medicine"
"to protect from attacks, by physically blocking the door himself"
"to protect from everyone's NTAs, by making them hide in a different room"

Clemens

(PLEASE CONFIRM, I may have missed something in the active flood of posts, given my involvement) Noni: 4 ruxi, behemoth, Emilly, Siderite Emilly: 4 Noni, Clemens, zero, Skuggi EC: 1 EC Telvek: 1 Heffie Unvoted: valli, phox No votes: Bombaclaat, Gridfon, Mary, MrWaffles, Nanaa, Rene, Telvek Can't vot...

Clemens

Alright guys, looks like we're too divided and time is running out. [,,,] Unvote Noni Vote EscapedConvict - see his post #1874 Please don't waste a vote on EC right now. Noni and Emilly are so much more important right now. Then once one of them dies, the clues will point us in the next direction.

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:00 pm
I declared my role and targets, I caught Noni lying and I'm voted?

You did not catch her. I did. (Or more specifically, I caught the contradiction between both of you.)

Clemens

if Emily turns out to be mafia then Clemens is 99.9999% clean. Bloody hell, I must be dreaming. If Emilly turns out innocent, lynch Noni , and then me. If Emilly turns out guilty, lynch EscapedConvict (and thus Mary ) No, they don't contradict zero's claims! Phox do not let them confuse you!!! It d...

Clemens

I would like to point out, to everyone here, that we will run out of time at this point.
So stop delaying (if you're not guilty) and start voting on either of the two.

Whichever side you believe, vote for the other.

Clemens

Does nobody else think that it is strange that Emily has the same ability as radwulf? It's not the same, nor is Gridfon 's. Each of them, assuming all 3 are true, test something slightly different. Body-Temperature, Room-Infection, Body-Infection. In a game this big, I wouldn't exclude that possibi...

Clemens

So far Clemens's role claim explains both claims from Gridfon and Emily of what happened N3. I would like to point out that since I WAS targetted in N1 and I have NOT died, that Mafia CERTAINLY knew something was wrong with my situation. They could have thought it was a doctor saving me (well, Pela...

Clemens

As a result, it is POSSIBLE that neither Noni or Emily are lying but I am not sure how Emily found radwulf in my room to take the swab since that kinda defeats my NTA unless it works only by protecting against a violent action or viral infection. I would not believe that Emilly "automatically knew"...

Clemens

Here's the thing. Between Emilly and Noni, they can't both be telling the truth. Do you want to hear a really crazy theory? They both messed up. The sheer desperation of phox to discredit me, going for me instead of either of them, has me thinking she's one of them. The poor attempt at Emilly trying...

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:53 pm

Clemens wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:22 pm

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:21 pm
If I investigate Godfather, will he come out clean?
Probably, that's how it usually goes.
You said that!

Because that's how Godfather works.
Were you expecting me to lie about that?

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:43 pm
Are you afraid of me and that's why you vote for me?

Please elaborate.
Your result came back negative, I am not infected, so why would I be afraid of you?
Perhaps the result will be different if you investigate me again? But then I wouldn't be the Godfather, as you claim, anyway.

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:43 pm
@Clemens can you explain to me: if you know my role and noni's role, why do you vote for me?

I already did.
Your reaction + phox's reaction + Noni's reaction.

Clemens

Clemens to be honest, you are just so frickin hard to figure out and that is what is bugging me As it should be, regardless which side (or third side, or solo side) I am on. That's how I play on both sides. BUT at least you are leaving baddie clues every now and then Like what? Actually bring them ...

Clemens

behemoth wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:28 pm
So endearing that people didn't notice how she was a major instigator in the rad lynch.

Ssshhh. I did notice, but was keeping that revelation for later.
She (in-)conveniently couldn't vote for Radwulf, but was more than willing to slander him all the way to a lynch in the end.

Clemens

unvote Telvek , vote Clemens are you scared cause Emily called you out for being the Godfather? If my attack had been entirely baseless, I would agree with your assessment. But you cannot deny the contradiction, which you are trying to ignore. And if you don't believe Noni's statements, why are you...

Clemens

Noni wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:21 pm
2.let me clarify : I was not blocked on the first night, I did not make any mistakes with my targets. RADWULF WAS NOT VISITED BY ANYONE.

vote Emilly

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:18 pm
@Clemens you are Microbiology resercher with no NTA and completely immune? Or I missed something?

#1179 & #1207

Clemens

what I think is that you are the Godfather of the mafia, that's what I think. Emily investegated you and you were "not infected". Gridfon investigated you and you had traces of the virus in your room . How do you explain this? I already did in my role claim. You can accuse me of having thought this...

Clemens

EscapedConvict wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:06 pm
So based on @Emilly 's info we have more reason to vote for myself/@Mary now.

I'd like to keep you around just a little longer.
But I agree that this has made the entire situation a lot more fishy concerning you twins.

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:03 pm
No, I think we have to wait until noni comes.

And you base that confidence in her on what exactly?

Clemens

phox wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:03 pm
clemens thanks for confirming my thoughts once again, you scum. stop going against emily when clearly she is on our side and telling the truth.

So you think Noni lied then?

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:59 pm
I dont know was Noni said, I know what I do.

So, you're fine with this contradiction then?

Clemens

maybe nonni was blocked and didn't stay at anyone's door I am certain she would know if that happened. she messed up the nights and the targets She re-confirmed many times in many posts what her targets were, over multiple days. she lied. Interesting, how someone that directly contradicts your own ...

Clemens

phox wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:47 pm
The checking of radwulf's room however, that is something easily inventable. OR some NTAs are just hidden and only some ppl can see them...not sure about that one

So you're more likely to believe that an observing NTA cannot observe correctly, than that Emilly or Noni lied?

Clemens

unvote Telvek

Clemens

I asked Daemon too...swab technique (from the throat/nose). It is a very unpleasant method. Leaving aside the same problem I had with Gridfon 's claim, that it sounds like I would not sleep through that. :D This is a bigger problem I currently have: My NTA involves being able to hang around somebod...

Clemens

Emilly wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:21 pm
If I investigate Godfather, will he come out clean?

Probably, that's how it usually goes.

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